EP 37 – Unpacking Brazil’s Protection Gap and How Digital Platforms Build Trust
26 November 2025

Insurance for the New Possible was joined by Marcio von Muhlen, General Manager of Insurance at Nubank, and Ignacio Sagués, Head of Digital for Chubb LATAM.

Some of the insights they shared included:

  • Indonesians are used to buying in small units. For financial services, bite-sized insurance and investments reduce friction and perceived risk.
  • Indonesia’s financial inclusion outpaces its financial literacy, but not by much. The existing gap mandates experience-led education.
  • DANA created trust by solving basic, money-related issues like digital top-ups, easy money transfers particularly in places that traditional banks do not reach.
  • While headline insurance growth looks modest at a macro level measured by premium value, but policy sales are seeing explosive growth.
  • The future of insurance sales in Indonesia is inside digital ecosystems. Acquisition costs are near-zero incrementally and targeting is can be very precise.
  • In emerging and middle-income segments, product complexity acts like a toll booth: it filters out exactly the people who need protection the most.
  • Until now, many Brazilian consumers have seen insurance as expensive or opaque. But Nubank is now bringing quality products, no surprises, and delight across every touchpoint.
  • Real trust is built during the claims process. If the customer experiences speed, clarity, and fairness, the product becomes real and trustworthy.
  • Contextual products plus embedded placement reframes coverage from an upsell to just-in-time assistance. Relevance rises, friction falls, and pricing can be right-sized to the moment.
  • Having fundamental ‘north stars’ matter. Making claims feel magical and as automatic as possible is among one of the most important ambitions of Chubb and Nubank.

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Marcio von Muhlen

Marcio von Muhlen

General Manager, Insurance, Nubank

Marcio von Muhlen is the General Manager for Insurance at Nubank, delivering protection to Nubank's 100+ million clients. Earlier in his career, he led product teams at iconic startups in their hypergrowth years, including Stripe, Dropbox and Doximity. His work focuses on translating complex, regulated problems into simple, high-trust customer experiences. Marcio holds engineering degrees from UC Berkeley and MIT. He lives in the Boston area with his family, and enjoys playing soccer with his kids and training for the occasional triathlon.  
Ignacio Sagués

Ignacio Sagués

VP, Head of Digital Business, LATAM, Chubb

Ignacio Sagués is Vice President, Head of Digital Business, LATAM at Chubb, overseeing digital business for the region. His career blends entrepreneurial drive with the ability to scale digital-native businesses in a global insurance leader, with a strong focus on digital distribution.an executive and entrepreneur at the intersection of insurance and technology. He began his career with a decade in discretionary asset management across Switzerland, Argentina, and Uruguay, before joining McKinsey & Company to advise leading corporations in Latin America on digital strategy and transformation. He later founded Inviu, the digital investment platform of Grupo Galicia, where he led its design and expansion as one of Argentina’s first full-scale fintech ventures.

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